Ed Whitfield: “There are detriments to these actions because, as you know, when an area is in noncompliance, they can't build a new…”

So many critics say that that flexibility argument--we're giving maximum flexibility to the State--is really a red herring.

Well, some States would disagree with that. I've talked to many of them, and they view--even though you went through a process, that you set the standard.

Well, a lot of us did not believe that to be true.

The Clean Power Plan was like picking up the Constitution and tearing it up.