We need to spend more money, we need to spend it more intelligently. Basically, this is not a stimulus bill. All right? Probably -- maybe a third of this is a stimulus bill. That's why they don't want to refer to it as a stimulus bill. People say, this is a down payment. I think they're being honest.
David Walker discusses the need for more intelligent spending in relation to the economic stimulus bill.
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I think the American -- we need to have a discussion with the American people about how much universal health care is appropriate, affordable and sustainable.
We have to have a robust discussion about what it is going to take to save the country.
This is not a collective bargaining problem. I mean, people ought to have the right to bargain, and we're not proposing to touch that at all.
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