Pat Roberts actually said...

I think you used to call it rural fugitive dust.

Is there any sort of cost benefit yardstick that all agencies should sort of agree on, and say, look, this is not the old testament. This is...

I think we have one heck of a problem on our hands or a challenge on our hands.

could there not be some yardstick that we would all agree on and say, okay, from a stability standpoint instead of changing the rules every ...