"You will find it is someone they have to get special rights just to use the shelter?"
"In 3 years, first of all, in 3 years we don't have the guidance, which belies any credibility you have that, respectfully, that this is ever going to happen."
"So you are telling the trans community that because of how you perceive how some people react to them, it is OK to discriminate against them?"
"But you are saying that if someone doesn't like someone else in that shelter, for whatever reasons, that you can allow discrimination against those people."
"What you are saying is those people have the right to do that and therefore the Federal Government can back up that right to discriminate."
"But they are not if they are not being allowed to participate because somebody else thinks it is OK to discriminate."
"You cannot discriminate because there are some people who you tell us say they don't like other people because of the way they look."
"We do not agree. First of all, I want to make clear we do not agree on any of that."
"The law says you cannot discriminate, that's my solution."
"Have you let it known within the Agency that you won't tolerate this especially relating to these issues?"
"But what you are saying is you are not letting the beneficiaries know that they have an alternative to go to a provider that doesn't discriminate against them."
"Then my strong suggestion is that you change what you are modifying here and tell them that the rules apply to all providers."