David Shulkin: “There is no excuse for these past projects, and we cannot continue to do business as usual.”

The VISN model was put in place close to 20 years ago, a very innovative model that has served VA well.

I wasn't willing to do that. I don't think that's the right thing for veterans and I stood up against them.

I believe strongly, Anderson, that when it comes to V.A. and national security, we can't make this a political issue.

I think the way the findings were used -- were used in a political way. Not by the inspector general, but by the political appointees within V.A.