determining total lead content was preferable to risk assessment.

But that doesn't mean you are not doing regulatory reform, correct?

we need to look at all of those.

the devil is in the details of these regulations.

We recently strengthened the Do Not Call Rule.

So Mr. Chairman, one thing I am concerned about, you can't really talk about regulatory reform in a vacuum without looking at the statutes that Congress has passed.

Would you be willing to submit a copy of those statutes to this committee so that we could then look at those statutes within the purview of this committee and think about ways to fix them so that we can reduce the burden of regulations?

If they are not providing appropriate documents, then that needs to happen.

I think it is hard to see how an empty-chair hearing would accomplish anything, and I think it is a profound waste of everybody's time.

I think sitting here this morning is a big waste of time.

I am pleased that we are having this hearing today on Medicare Secondary Payer issues.

And so obviously this program is important in making sure that taxpayers are protected and that the Medicare program is not paying bills that other insurers should be paying.

And it frankly seems very unfair for beneficiaries to face huge and unexpected demands to pay funds back to Medicare years after they have settled.

we have to grapple with this, and we have to grapple with it in a way that is science-based, not in a way that is based on politics.

Do you think that Federal regulations like these can support economic growth and foster job creation.

I completely agree that there should be some explanation by these agencies, the EPA and the other agencies, about, in fact, what the impact of these regulations should be on jobs.

So that might affect a regulation that was a bad regulation or a good regulation; right? It's a great big mallet that comes down and kills that regulation.

If you can get somebody from your staff to send us an e-mail--don't send us a letter----

Sometimes regulations are not cost-effective, and they should either be fixed or repealed. But sometimes regulations protect the public health and actually can save money.

One of the priorities that the Executive order said is that he wants to tailor--the President wants to tailor regulations to impose the least burden on society.

When I talk to businesses in my district, small and large, one of the great frustrations is obsolete regulations.

So, really, it seems to me--I don't want to be implying either that more regulations would save more money or fewer regulations would cost or save more money.

I wish the majority, rather than complaining in vague terms about the regulatory reform efforts and the unemployment rate, would actually sit down with the minority and, with us, together, develop a jobs bill.

The President urged agencies to expand opportunities for public participation in the regulatory process and to look for ways to make regulations more efficient and effective.

The President wants to tailor regulations to impose the least burden on society.