And you cited the specific code sections, and you also cited the fact that this will reduce the deficit of America over the next 10 years by some $300 billion.

And that was the Medicare Part D. Thank you very much, Mr. Andrews. ____________________

And if you're a senior of low income and moderate income, some of your prescription drugs are reduced by 50 percent.

I'm joined with three individuals that have done that throughout their entire career here. Mr. Holt, I know you're going to have to go off to another meeting shortly, so you wanted to fill us in and carry on part of the conversation we…

Madam Speaker, we have several of my colleagues here to join us. We will just continue the discussion that we had before. I think I'll move to the other side so I will have the easel available to me. If Ms. Jan Schakowsky will come join…

Because they are greedy, profit-driven, profit-before- people-oriented companies.

A big piece of what is going to happen in this reform is that there will be a continuing study going on through the Medicare offices and the Department of Health Services to find better ways of treating seniors. You've talked about the…

That current unnecessary bonus that's given to the insurance companies will be brought back and reinvested in the Medicare program so that the Medicare program's solvency will be extended into the future. So we're not taking that money…

Oh, that's so unfair to the insurance companies, that you would take away their bonus for doing nothing more than you can do in another system.

Well, I was the insurance commissioner in California from 1991 to 1995, and then 2003 to 2007, so I've got 8 years as the insurance commissioner in the biggest State in this Nation, with a lot of seniors. Our seniors haven't grown quite as…

The key point here is that in this legislation there is a specific effort to eliminate the fraud that goes on in the system. The unnecessary payments, the stealing of the Social Security cards, all those kinds of things that are out there…

This is a good deal, and yet we see the TV ads out there scaring seniors that somehow this is a bad deal for seniors. This program is a very good deal for seniors, wherever they happen to be, and for every other American. We're talking…