Jerry Lewis: “On the amendment that we are considering, Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman…”

It is a fabulous program, using the money very well, and I urge a ``no'' vote on the gentleman's amendment.

I can't help but wonder if maybe there is some lack of commitment to regular order that I had never perceived before. For example, my colleague from San Diego, the chairman of the VA Subcommittee, if he had been given an opportunity, could…

But in the meantime, we are talking about regular order, trying to change the appropriations process so it makes sense, not destroy our committee. I would suggest we are on a pathway to destroy this committee.

What I am suggesting, Mr. Obey, is that there are, in this place even, there are people who sometimes use data and statistics for their purposes versus other purposes. This is our committee and I would hope we would run it in regular order.