I think it's 40 million people practicing physical distancing 40 million people by and large staying at home that have really stepped up to meet this moment. And I think there's no greater non pharmaceutical impact to bend a curve then…

What appears that we've not only bent the curve, but we have stretched it. And we've stretched it out a little bit.

Look, the worst thing we can do again is, you know, as we're getting so close to turning the page, turning the corner on this, is to get ahead of ourselves to trip over ourselves.

Yes, look, I mean, as it were involved in 68 lawsuits with the Trump administration, I've been on your show, I haven't been timid. He certainly hasn't been timid. But I got to say this, it's just the fact I'd be lying to you.

I don’t anticipate that will happen. I mean, at the end of the day, I think the government will be led broadly and the President will ultimately be led by the facts on the ground, and that’s federalism, 50 parts one body.

What are you waiting for?

It's time for all of us to recognize, as individuals and as a community, we need to do more.

I mean, it's just -- it's honestly rather pathetic arguments and they fly in the face of reality. There's no objective observers that can make that case. I mean, at the end of the day, you're right, he's arguing against innovation. He's…

He's losing and we're winning. This is Donald Trump feeling the pressure, the reality is setting in, and he's feeling more and more that he needs to change course but he doesn't know how to move because he can't move off his base.

Seven young children have died since Trump was inaugurated as President of the United States. Not one died over eight years under President Obama's stewardship.

We're going to join many other states probably as early as next week, and I think we'll file our 58th lawsuit against the administration, and I don't say that proudly.