I can try to. I remember that in 2008 there were two significant cyber bank robberies: the Royal Bank of Scotland, I think for $8 million, and Citibank for $10 million. This was not public right away because nobody wanted it known. Then you see the more recent attacks of Aramco being taken down, Sony, and it goes on and on. The information is not often shared publicly by companies who should be asking: This happened to our company; can you share anything that might help us handle this? That kind of thing doesn't happen because everybody is afraid of liability, and so it is very concerning. I remember when Joe Lieberman was chairman of the homeland security committee, which had a bill. As the Senator will remember, we had the information sharing part of that bill, and we sat down with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, I believe on three occasions, to try to work out differences, and we couldn't. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is massive and all over the United States. It includes small businesses, medium- sized businesses, and some big businesses, and there was deep concern among its members. That took years to work out.…
On the recordOctober 21, 2015
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