Whenever you look at the family that is being very productive, that has a great family life contributing to American society, but, in fact, they came here illegally, I don't think you can excuse the illegal behavior, but you also recognize…

I would certainly agree with him that we have to enforce our law, and that's an important part of my responsibilities. But whenever you look at a family that's been here, that came in here for a job six years ago, they've had two children…

Now we can use it for terrorists.

Well, first of all, that sneak and peek that you talk about is a delayed notice provision, and you have to have a judge's order before a law enforcement officer can do that.

The most important thing is that you can share intelligence. There was a wall that was put up between those that gathered foreign intelligence, and those that were in law enforcement.

The most important thing is to have the Patriot Act renewed because the provisions are about to sunset.

That sneak and peek that you talk about is a delayed notice provision, and you have to have a judge's order before a law enforcement officer can do that.

Well, of course the concern is what you don't know about. But clearly in the last 2 1/2 years, we have dismantled cells in the United States, individuals who are connected to al Qaeda and terrorism.

Some of the terrorists of the past have not just come in with a visa, they've actually traveled through visa waiver country passports and that's been attractive to them and we've recognized that, that we need to address.

It would be the wrong decision to make at this time. We want to know whether this is an incident that was directed at Spain, that is no threat to the United States, whether this is an al Qaeda incident.

You then recognize, of course, that this is -- shows their continued capability and would certainly enhance the security even more.