I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Turner), my friend and colleague.

What happens? If you are an average patient there, you are in the middle of some radiation treatment...

It is a 20 percent increase.

Representative Rogers has a bill that would equalize reimbursements for oncology services received by patients in a hospital outpatient department with those by patients in freestanding oncology clinics.

This is the fourth year in a row this amendment or something similar to it has been offered. Once again, I am going to ask that this be rejected. The DOD has asked for the authority to transfer funds to NNSA's nuclear weapons activities…

Again, Mr. Chairman, I think we would all be remiss in our duties if we stand by and allow one more cancer patient not to be able to make travel, select not to get treatment or their costs go up so prohibitively they can't continue…

I think just the fact that we pointed out the significant cost to patients, number one, not only in just dollars but the anxiety that comes with getting in that car and driving a greater distance just to have access to care means that we…

I respect my friend from California. She is very knowledgeable on the subject, but she is wrong on this amendment, and I urge a ``no'' vote. Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of my time. The CHAIR. The question is on the amendment…

Although in a market economy, if the hospitals pay more for exactly the same services, it is pretty hard to argue that that isn't a significant factor.

Reimbursement should be equal for the same service provided to a cancer patient regardless of whether the service is delivered in the hospital outpatient department or a physician's office.

And I have heard examples and I am sure you have heard examples of people who are choosing not to continue care or treatment because of the distance to travel.

as mentioned by Representative Rogers, this results in increased travel and hassle for patients undergoing cancer treatment.