Mike Johanns said...

It is systemic. It is cultural. It is people have just adopted this mode of operation as the way of doing business.

The budget request you are making this year admittedly is sizeable. I appreciate you are a little bit different circumst...

We should be darn sure about what we are doing, because it could have some economic consequences.

I have had the opposite experience. Small businesses really are frustrated with Obamacare, very frustrated.