Mike Johanns: “It makes no sense to me. Like I said, it drives me crazy. It is such a waste of money.”

Somehow we have got to figure out a better way, because at the most important time in this person's life, when they are crying out for help, it should be a simple, straight-forward pathway to access that help.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

But to anyone who might be listening in who is wondering if is it time to give up, it is not.

I think it would be beneficial.