Mike Johanns: “I agree with you based on what I know.”

Our job is to try to figure out how we deal with that puzzle, that very difficult issue of how to provide services to people who need it.

It is Congress who will create the next housing finance system and that the next housing finance system is not the conservatorship of the FHFA.

Somehow we have got to figure out a better way, because at the most important time in this person's life, when they are crying out for help, it should be a simple, straight-forward pathway to access that help.

Could you do that and make it crystal clear to the public that you confirm that the role of conservator... is to be the bridge builder?