Mike Johanns: “If you have more than 10 outside employees, guess what, you are no longer a family operation.”

I will continue to push this legislation, but many of its provisions are things that HUD has the flexibility to implement on its own.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Could you do that and make it crystal clear to the public that you confirm that the role of conservator... is to be the bridge builder?

I think it would be beneficial.