Mike Johanns actually said...

I'm never going to figure out your business model; I must admit, it doesn't make any sense to me.

But, see, what I want to get to, here, is, how do we do this safely? That's the point.

But, you're kind of getting to the point that I want to make, here. And the point is that the majors aren't running these routes, because yo...

Would you get back to me on that? That's a very important question.