Lisa Murkowski actually said...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

But, in fact, with the proposals and what has been advanced by the USFS and the others, if somebody decides to sue on this, there is nothing...

But I have been less optimistic, less encouraged--and certainly now, since this decision on the Roadless has come out, I feel pretty discour...

Well, I'm glad to think that you're thinking pretty holistically about how you're going to have to approach it.