Lisa Murkowski actually said...

But I have been less optimistic, less encouraged--and certainly now, since this decision on the Roadless has come out, I feel pretty discour...

Well, I'm glad to think that you're thinking pretty holistically about how you're going to have to approach it.

I think having incentives of R and D based around the performance goals we want to achieve.

But, unfortunately, we're seeing--many of those who have been willing to collaborate and sit around the table at the Tongass Futures Roundta...