02/28/2012
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"Why is this so difficult? Why is it so hard to identify this?"
"Would that be difficult to isolate that or to account for them in a different way?"
"I appreciate that, Mr. Katz. I appreciate you working with my staff on this to just better understand what we're dealing with."
"Do I understand correctly, though, that currently you have begun to ask for that information?"