Lisa Murkowski actually said...

I'm also pleased that today we're moving the conversation forward, talking about the role of building efficiency through retrofit programs.

That should be a stunning statistic to us.

So to meet my Vern standard, how can we with the proposal that we have in front of us, how do we deal with the do-it-yourself individual who...

But that job creation is--that's kind of the immediate opportunity, if you will.