Lisa Murkowski actually said...

the heart of this debate is, is this a clarification or is this yet that overreach, that creep of an agency that so many of us are concerned...

And of course, right now, our concern is, where is the data?

What they're doing is, they are either putting expectations that, in a place like Alaska or in places in rural America, it's impossible, if ...

I must convey the sense of frustration, because as you're saying, we must use these technologies to get us to that point where we have clean...