Lisa Murkowski actually said...

I think one of the reasons is that there are still some outstanding questions on where we make the difference here.

But it seems to me that when you take the money from the program, you would reduce the number of fires you're going to have to deal with.

I think that oversight role is important. And I worry that we might lose some aspect of that oversight with this expansion that we're talkin...

When you say 'less,' would you agree that it was 21 million board-feet last year?