Lisa Murkowski actually said...

"How are we going to get to the numbers that you are talking about? I mean, are they just numbers on paper?"

"Senator Murkowski, we do want to work with the committee on finding a solution for this."

"But opportunities are tied up because of red tape, whether it is policies coming out of the Federal Government or the impact of the roadless rule."

"Well, colleagues, figure that one out. Pretty danged expensive to build a hydro facility or do anything if you are operating completely by helicopter."