Lisa Murkowski actually said...

We know that it's going to be expensive to replace them, but we also know that we have to have them.

I feel pretty discouraged. That's why I started off my comments today asking if your folks would be willing to sit down with the people in W...

But, unfortunately, we're seeing--many of those who have been willing to collaborate and sit around the table at the Tongass Futures Roundta...

So the glass is getting emptier.