Lisa Murkowski actually said...

But if it is that's a huge breakthrough and we want to encourage that.

Both supply and demand matter and the policies that we can consider here in this committee, I think should reflect that.

That's whether it's appropriate that we be picking winners and losers.

It's important for me, and I think, the public, to know that you're spending each year on the timber program--we need to know what that amou...