Lisa Murkowski actually said...

We recognize the challenges. I would certainly concur with the chairman here, that we need to find longer term solutions so that we don't go...

Even though the Tongass management plan calls for 267 million board feet. So what we're saying is, is that we're delivering a little bit mor...

Chief, you and I have both acknowledged that in order to get to that second growth we can't just snap our fingers.

What we are concerned about is the level at which the program is funded.