Lisa Murkowski actually said...

I think there are some other factors there.

But, unfortunately, we're seeing--many of those who have been willing to collaborate and sit around the table at the Tongass Futures Roundta...

I feel pretty discouraged. That's why I started off my comments today asking if your folks would be willing to sit down with the people in W...

We know that it's going to be expensive to replace them, but we also know that we have to have them.