Tim Pawlenty: “This situation with President Biden and this particular pardon, it is corrosive. It is hypocritical. It is self-serving…”

We also see goodness in bystanders and good samaritans who weren't wearing a uniform, but ran to the problem, ran to the crisis, ran to the challenge and the danger to be helpful, another reflection of Minnesotans' goodness. And, so, it's…

Well, I was always taught, Erin, to measure twice and cut once, and that would be a good rule for tariff imposed to follow as well, because markets, as you just noted, don't like uncertainty. They don't like chaos.

Well, when your values are clear, your decisions are easy. And pretty clearly, President Trump and vice president candidate Vance are struggling with this issue for all the reasons that your lead in suggested, that he's been all over the…

I think President Trump has de facto already been pardoned because those cases have imploded, but it would have been a nice gesture, notwithstanding that if President Biden would have issued a pardon for President Trump, it would have been…