Thomas R. Carper: “there is a moral responsibility here as well. It is just not an economic imperative...”

We need to reform it.

I would say there is a lesson here for both of us, and one of those is to make clear I am always ready to take your calls, your meeting, whatever you want and engage.

We need to reform it.

I hope is that the issues we just discussed... we can keep at it today and see if we can't find a way to yes.