Shelley Capito actually said...

These rollbacks will set us back in achieving our conservation goals by increasing costs and burdens of doing the right thing.

Well, it seems to be training, training, training is the aspect that has come very forward in all of your recommendations.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you Ranking Member Blunt too.

In my view, the fact that it is very difficult to do speaks to the need to do it.