05/31/2012
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"Utilities will next need to have a New Source Review permit approved to upgrade their facilities."
"They are retiring them because of the regulatory uncertainty, and the threats that are being posed to them."
"I want to see in your budget, do you have enough money in there for research to be able to get us down to 80 percent by 2030?"
"Are you willing to work with us, or--to make these reforms?"