Does the government have enough resources? Do they have manpower? Do they have the requisite skills of the people in the position to, with transparency, with tracking process, really understand what the issues and be in the position that…

But in the end, it would be the Department of Energy.

This is kind of harkening back to the hearing we had back in June, but just refresh my memory.

What is the plus? I mean, what do you expect above your costs?

What I am saying is in business the idea of a safety culture is not new, not by any stretch of the imagination.

So you would make a recommendation, but DOE in the end has control of the process.

How do you resolve those things?

Count me amongst them, in the sense that only 2 weeks ago Russia had the President of the Ukraine essentially under their thumb both economically and politically.

I want to make sure we do everything within our ability through the trans-Atlantic relationship to expel Russian troops out of Crimea.

I fought for this appropriation as an appropriator and a chair of this committee and am pleased with its allocation.

OK. I may be going to the Foreign Relations hearing on treaties later on.

So if U.S. investors have invested about $12 billion into Swiss banks, I mean, obviously that is a pretty small portion of the Swiss banking assets held, right?

When I asked a question earlier about how were you able to determine compliance, you talked about clients were signing waivers, they were filling out W-9s. What prevents you from having every client sign those waivers?

I think you mentioned that some clients and some Swiss bankers were involved in some of these fraudulent transactions.

I am no lawyer, so can you talk to me a little bit about what types of criminal charges would you try to bring, and what are the impediments?

So the 238 accounts were determined fraudulent.

Historically, let us go back. People around the world have deposited money into Swiss banks as a real safe haven.

But that is going to require us to actually have knowledge that there may be some fraudulent activity occurring, correct or not?

Well, I have no further questions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I just want to state the obvious.

I want to understand a little bit about what is so different about the 230 accounts where we actually received the names versus the other 22,000.

OK. In the morning hearing, what I was trying to establish was kind of the obvious in terms of, why does Switzerland have this very huge banking sector and is there value there?

So then what complicates that? Now we start talking about shell corporations.

I agree, and that makes an awful lot of sense.

I mean, what is the primary problem with that treaty?