12/20/2021
https://www.msnbc.com...
"With all due respect, Mr. Sherk, I think you--whether or not you're here representing the Heritage Foundation--are really not making a whole lot of sense, to my mind."
"So we remove the incentive to work by having adequate social programs, so you're opposed to that."
"Food stamps is an expensive, old-style program that rewards idleness."
"If your minimum wage goes up, you're going to lose food stamps, you may lose part of the earned income tax credit."