I think the fact that you have this panel probably makes these hearings well worth it.

There must be a tremendous amount of reinvestment, not just in terms of whole dollars.

The question, I think, for state legislators across the country, is what is the balance between funding for incarceration and funding for reinvestment in the community?

I think your unemployment rate is 10 percent.

I believe it would be important to bring more work into the prisons.

I think faith makes a big difference. John Newton wrote Amazing Grace. The faith issue was the issue that changed him.

And actually, you know, for three old guys, you were fairly exciting insofar as laying out what the opportunities are insofar as really making a difference.

How well do we honestly do?

I think we are building more prisons, putting more people away when we ought to be putting more money into training and work.

People in prisons are people. They have moms and dads and husbands and wives and kids. And they are not statistics.

I think there is a unique opportunity. I think we are coming to a storm economically.