the remedy is, I think, urgent.

So until this body begins to incrementally assert itself with impeachment--acknowledge being the ultimate penalty.

The remedy given to us in the Constitution is impeachment.

What Congress really wants is access to the documents and the witnesses, because that is the lifeblood of any investigation.

Isn't it a fact that the Senate Finance Committee, the Department of Justice, and the Treasury Inspector General all investigated this alleged IRS scandal that is the subject of this hearing today and each one of those entities found that…

It is.

That's my understanding.

Did they provide false and misleading testimony to Congress? Yes and on more than one occasion.

I think that is part of it, yes. Yes, I do.

Did they or did they not destroy the evidence? They did.

The first question you have to ask is did they destroy documents that were under subpoena. I think the answer is clearly yes.