Michael Cloud actually said...

China...are stealing our innovation, to the tune of, some would say, $2 to $600 billion.

Every year we have deficit spending. We're looking at $22 trillion of debt, which is also a national security issue.

If we keep pouring money into this bucket without shoring up, I mean, we're in a sense funding their innovation as much as we are ours.

I think it was 27 universities recently. I mean, they're stealing everything from shipping secrets, to missile secrets, to fertilizer recipe...