Louie Gohmert actually said...

the fence is worthless. You put a 10-fence up, somebody is going to build a 12-foot ladder.

if the Administration is going to be consistent, it's now time to remove the fence from around the White House.

I would submit to you that is what we are talking about. We are talking about people who are paying criminals.

I would encourage you to be more skeptical in these interviews, without further evidence.