06/16/2010
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"But you are. It is clear. It is in the numbers, and it is irrefutable."
"That gives me comfort."
"we can also not stop the beyond low-Earth orbit."
"I was, frankly, floored, as you know from our conversation, that it would be so blatant to take it right out of Orion and SLS and put it into Commercial Crew."