John E. Jones III: “It’s an all-out war on the lower courts.”

I think that she's way off base. I think what's happened is the defense in its argument is turning the Presidential Records Act on its head, and she seems to have bought that.

I think they're kind of playing hide the ball, not inappropriately with some witnesses. I agree with your panelists that Hope Hicks is going to be a very interesting and maybe a pivotal witness to tie the former president or not to what…

It absolutely misrepresents the way the judges decide cases.

I think it's scurrilous. Anderson, I spent a number of years on the Judicial Security Committee of the Judicial Council of the United States, and I'm well-versed in threats to judges. But this now transcends that, we're talking about…