Joe Barton: “I am a big proponent historically of wind power.”

You can tell that you have been president of a national organization. I am throwing you softballs, and you are being very ecumenical.

The allegation that we made, the Republicans, is that you're discriminatory against us--against the Republicans.

That's hard to stomach. We wouldn't be having this discussion if there wasn't a general agreement that your company has discriminated against conservatives, most of whom happen to be Republican.

If we did that and went to a pure market for ethanol, it would work.