Lamar Alexander actually said...

But basically so that it's not held out to be some big scientific mystery.

Well, we--you know, I think it's fair to characterize--and she will correct me if I'm wrong--we are united on the urgent desire to break the...

We certainly don't want you back on your high horse. That would not be good, so we'll redouble our efforts.

That's four, three, and two.