06/02/2015
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"I'm running out of time, but let me ask you this: Eight million people in 2014 paid a penalty for not signing up for Obamacare. How many were enrolled?"
"I cannot tell you how in favor of debarments and fines and penalties, I am, because when you hit people where it hurts the most, that is an actual deterrent."
"Was anybody disciplined?"
"Was anybody fired over this 3-million-gallon spill of toxic chemicals into this river?"