Mick Mulvaney actually said...

what they perpetuate is this myth that we can balance a budget or move toward balance without affecting entitlements.

it is that capital investment as part of the tax bill that you all voted for that we know we have to have in order to get that productivity ...

you cannot have the growth that you all project without a consequent simultaneous rise in interest rates.

You do not have to go down that road to permanent trillion-dollar deficits.