Mick Mulvaney: “We have to end Medicare as we know it.”

I was not aware of a general standing order like that.

I think we are all familiar with the term. Honestly I think you are seeing some of it now.

Look, what is - Mike Pence is a nice guy. But what is Mike Pence offering that 15 other Republicans, in the field, they're not offering?

And what you`re seeing I think is folks, especially in my party, are looking at Donald Trump as damaged and something that might weigh down the party going into the midterms and into 2024.