Mick Mulvaney: “We are actually doing that in Puerto Rico. They are going to be better off.”

But, yes, it has always surprised me how that history has been revised, the history has been portrayed that it was because of the fight, because of the debt ceiling fight that we got the downgrade.

I think you would see less inflation, I think you would see more private investment.

That being said, there’ve been two areas where the states have almost always been entirely sovereign: That’s on booze and gambling.

And what you`re seeing I think is folks, especially in my party, are looking at Donald Trump as damaged and something that might weigh down the party going into the midterms and into 2024.