Mick Mulvaney: “we absolutely anticipate that the deepwater ports be part of the infrastructure bill.”

But, yes, it has always surprised me how that history has been revised, the history has been portrayed that it was because of the fight, because of the debt ceiling fight that we got the downgrade.

I wish we could agree that we would rather spend it on doing things than paying off debt in the past.

I just think this is absolutely shameful. I really do.

It is so often the cover up, Anderson, that is a bigger deal than the underlying potential crime itself.