06/30/2011
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"How about something maybe we can agree on, that if we don't get China and India and other big emitters to do better it doesn't really matter a whole lot what we do here; do you agree with that, Doug?"
"Climate change is real. It's affecting quality life on the planet over time."
"If we do electrification of the vehicle fleet along the lines that car companies are talking about by 2035, 2040, how much demand in power production will that create in America?"
"I'm generally supportive, but the problem with this is we talk in circles."