04/25/2012
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"I apologize that there is not more active participation today."
"But the issue is exacerbated, Madam Chairman, by all the other things we have talked about."
"We have illegals coming in this country. We have another element coming into this country illegally, walking across our border, and that is a DHS term of OTMs, other than Mexicans."
"But we all know that a taller fence just means a higher ladder or a higher fence means a taller ladder and elements are going to cross over that fence."