05/19/2014
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"May I just ask you--when you started--or, I should say, when the new administration started, what was that number?"
"I think it happens to be both."
"But, here's the problem for a lot of Americans. They feel as if they have no control, or no ability to impact the control, of rising costs."
"I know I'm way over time. I'll stop. But, it's my sense you've been pretty reluctant to join these reforms."